I chatted with Payson Hall for the first time at ADP West.  We talked about the broken model of Fixed Price contracts and the challenges of working in the public sector with agile methods.

Hope you enjoy this interview as much as I enjoyed recording it.

-bob payne

Dale and I chat in sunny Vegas.  We spoke about his presentations, training and our lives as consultants.  If you have not met Dale you should get yourself out to sunny California and attend his training in July.

I hope you enjoy this podcast as much as I enjoyed recording it.

-bob